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Going to be a chaotic few weeks I think

  • With the bracket nonsense going to strong I think the next couple weeks will be nearly insufferable. KU really needs to take care of business against Baylor and win at least one tourney game and I think we ought to be fairly safe at the rate others are struggling.

    BigJKU316

  • BigJKU316 said...

    With the bracket nonsense going to strong I think the next couple weeks will be nearly insufferable. KU really needs to take care of business against Baylor and win at least one tourney game and I think we ought to be fairly safe at the rate others are struggling.

    Agreed. I've been thinking about getting the 1 seed and what would it take. With everybody losing it seems if KU beats Baylor and doesn't lose a bad one in the conference tournament ( although I don't believe conference tournaments should have any barring on NCAA tournament seeding) a #1 seed is locked. At this point a #2 seed is a stone cold lock for Kansas.

    Interesting note that if KSU wins in Stillwater OSU will likely fall to the #4 seed in the Big 12 tournament since OU is not likely to lose to TCU. To me that is a complete fail job by Travis Ford when he has 3 guys who will likely be drafted at some point in Brown, Nash, and Smart. With Smart a likely top 5 pick.

    Baumer

  • I filter most of the garbage about who's currently seeded where and what they need to do to "blah blah blah" and instead adopt the Al Davis motto: "Just win, baby!" If we take care of the business we should and beat Baylor and Texas / Texas Tech, I have little trouble believing a loss to Iowa State or Oklahoma State in the conference semifinals would mean a whole lot to us. I also subscribe to the belief that seeding shouldn't be affected positively or negatively by these stupid conference tournaments, with the caveat that I'm okay with a bad loss in first game you play (being the one seed and losing to the eight seed, for example) hurting a little.

    All of that being said, I see no reason to expect us to lose next weekend short of Iowa State or Markel Brown getting crazy hot from three. What would that mean? Maybe even the #1 overall seed, right?

    AaronM

  • AaronM said...

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    All of that being said, I see no reason to expect us to lose next weekend short of Iowa State or Markel Brown getting crazy hot from three. What would that mean? Maybe even the #1 overall seed, right?

    Maybe but I can see Gonzaga getting that #1 overall seed with their argument being that the went 5-0 against the Big 12. 3 of the those wins against NCAA tournament teams, and one being in Stillwater.

    Baumer

  • Baumer said...

    Maybe but I can see Gonzaga getting that #1 overall seed with their argument being that the went 5-0 against the Big 12. 3 of the those wins against NCAA tournament teams, and one being in Stillwater.

    I understand that point of view, and Gonzaga doesn't have the horrific loss to TCU, but for all everyone makes about them playing "all comers," their non-conference SOS was 28th, they have only 5 top 50 wins (vs. 9 for Kansas, 8 for Duke, and 7 for Indiana, Georgetown, and Louisville), and no opportunities to improve on that, while all the competition for the top line does have opportunity. They're going to get the 1 seed in the West, and they deserve that, but I honestly think they're closer to a 2 seed than they are to #1 overall, at least to me and based on the committee's history. If I were betting, my money right now would be on Duke being #1 overall (despite finishing second in the ACC), followed by Kansas, Gonzaga, and Indiana. Again, I think Gonzaga is closer to falling off the top line than they are to moving up to #1 overall (what happens if Duke, Kansas, Indiana, and Georgetown or Louisville stomp their ways to conference tournament championships? wouldn't those four teams be more deserving, honestly?).

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    AaronM

  • To shift a tiny bit, given the hypothetical choice, would you rather be the 1 in the midwest/south with a 2 seed TBD or the 2 in the west paired with Gonzaga?

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  • The only matchup I want to avoid is a Duke in DC or Indiana in Indiana.

    Other than that I don't think it matters much.

    BigJKU316

  • BigJKU316 said...

    The only matchup I want to avoid is a Duke in DC or Indiana in Indiana.

    Other than that I don't think it matters much.

    I'll start another thread on matchups I want to avoid, but I thought I'd toss in here that I have ZERO desire to play VCU anywhere short of Atlanta. ZERO. I don't want any sliver of them unless it's in the Final Four.

    AaronM

  • I think it would be best to avoid teams like Iowa State, Florida, Duke, and UNC (since they have gone small). Those teams have guys 1-4 that can shoot the 3. If they are on from outside they are a tough out. Much rather play a traditional team.

    Hawkbrand