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I think we need to strongly consider not sitting Ben and Withey at the same time if we can avoid it. To me that seems to be when we really labor on offense as it lets the other team play everyone straight up.
That's a great point. Up until yesterday's game, I was convinced the biggest rotation problem may be when Traylor and Ellis are both playing and Withey and Young are both on the bench. And while I still think that's a horrific defensive disaster, our worse offensive disaster seems to be when Withey and McLemore are both out at the same time. This is just another point about why Withey is our team MVP and should have been conference POY. His ability to "change the game" at both ends of the court is vaguely familiar...
Well, I think it is as simply as the fact that Withey can at least draw a double to open some things up when Ben is on the bench. It gives us something to do with the basketball.
It's not just that, though, is it? I think it's as much that Withey and Ben are our only consistent players who are more than "role" players. I expected Johnson to be less of a role player this year, but for most of the year, that's what he's been. Travis and Fro are exactly role players, as are all the other players in our rotation. Withey and Ben are the only ones who really aren't.
On offense I think it is as simple as that. Absent Withey to try to feed the ball to in the post or Ben to try to find for shots we often times engage in what amounts to obsessive compulsive hand washing on offense. We do most of the things we are supposed to do but we don't really accomplish anything. Perry Ellis has the chance to change that a bit but I am fairly certain he will still struggle against athletic, long teams.
I think you and I are saying the same thing and trying to disagree. LOL
Perry, bless his heart, tries to be aggressive when he's in - he just can't differentiate between a good shot and a bad shot right now and he's almost a complete black hole on offense. He's always been bigger and more polished than his competition, but he was always going to struggle at this level for at least a year because he's not a great athlete, isn't exceptionally tall for a post player, has short arms (for his height), and in general, doesn't do any one thing "great." He's a role player in the Big 12.
I think most are way too down on the guy long term. Perry is all those things, but he also does have a pretty good amount of skill. I think he will get stronger and more explosive (the twins would like to say high in that regard) and really learn to make things happen facing up to the basket and attacking on the bounce and with his turnaround jumper.
He is not going to be a superstar but I would not be stunned if his last two years he sees 20-25 minutes a game and puts up 12 and 8 or a bit better. One can call that a role player but most teams would murder their own mothers to have a post player that could do that.
This post was edited by BigJKU316 13 months ago
One of perry's problems (although he looked good yesterday) is that when the coaches tell him to be aggresive he thinks that means shoot the ball any time you touch it. The good thing is that he's hit more of those shots and has developed some low post moves... he still needs to learn the art of post and re-post.
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LOL. Somehow, I knew I should check back here...
I should say that when Perry is playing within the offense and not interpreting "be aggressive" to mean "shoot every time you touch the ball on offense," he's not been bad. With him it's been energy and being an inefficient blackhole.
Kid just has to learn to finish with the considerable skills he has. He can't do it like he was used to. Has to get his points differently and I hope he is starting to figure that out.
It's interesting to compare and contrast Ellis's development versus that of Brice Johnson or McAdoo at UNC under Roy. Ellis is going to be forced to become physically and emotionally tough under Self. Taking the ball weak to the cup and bailing out, seeking to avoid contact to finish isn't going to fly. I think the guys under Roy generally get that eventually, but it takes a year or two more and some never get will.
McAdoo thought getting tougher meant getting his biceps toned. He's still Charmin soft. Bryce Johnson has a really nice touch, but instead of improving as the year's gone on, he's shrunk.
We'll see what Ellis can do. Still really small sample size and a really favorable couple of matchups with ISU and KSU, but Ellis looked under control and in rhythm.
This post was edited by crimsonandblue 13 months ago
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